macrae11 wrote:Would this be a tool that would allow a relative drum moron to be able to at least tweak some skins into shape, or does it just make a skilled tuner able to work faster? Matt has gone over the basics of drum tuning with me, so I know most of the concepts, I just haven't (and probably won't) put the time in to become a really good drum tuner.
One strength of this type of tool is exactly what you ask. One thing I saw happening was backline providers sending kits out with this tool so the non drummers can get kits up to spec. Once you know how to seat and break heads in properly, "tuning" is a breeze with this little trick.macrae11 wrote:Would this be a tool that would allow a relative drum moron to be able to at least tweak some skins into shape, or does it just make a skilled tuner able to work faster? Matt has gone over the basics of drum tuning with me, so I know most of the concepts, I just haven't (and probably won't) put the time in to become a really good drum tuner.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:Once you know how to seat and break heads in properly, "tuning" is a breeze with this little trick.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:Interesting things you find out when using these is how the natural "pitch" of the drum is size dependent, not tension dependent. When setting the tension the same for all sizes of toms for instance, you get wonderfully even intervals without even working for it.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:Matt's just afraid you'll make him obsolete Andrew...
macrae11 wrote:Just to be clear, I don't think this will, nor do I want to, make Matt obsolete. All I want to be able to do is take a kit, that already has heads seated, and has been previously tuned, from sounding like crap, to passable.
Nick H. wrote:As the head stretches, wouldn't more and more tension be needed to maintain a consistent sound; making it impossible to always tune to a specific reading?
Mathieu Benoit wrote:Nick H. wrote:As the head stretches, wouldn't more and more tension be needed to maintain a consistent sound; making it impossible to always tune to a specific reading?
No the actual tension relates to the pitch. As the head stretches, the pitch will decrease because the tension decreases. So you have to turn the tension rods more because there is now a lack of tension.
Mathieu Benoit wrote:Nick H. wrote:As the head stretches, wouldn't more and more tension be needed to maintain a consistent sound; making it impossible to always tune to a specific reading?
No the actual tension relates to the pitch. As the head stretches, the pitch will decrease because the tension decreases. So you have to turn the tension rods more because there is now a lack of tension.
dylanger wrote:I'm sure I'll have a better understanding when I read the drum tuning bible.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:As much as I agree that you need practice to develop an ability to tune drums well, and to have flexibility with your tuning depending on the setup, room, and intention, these newer devices get us to a point where a newb can tune a given drumset, in a repeatable fashion, following a given set of directions. None of these devices will teach you how to get a drum sound, and most of the "preset" tunings they suggest are for the birds, but if you want to be able to get a consistent drum tuning, without relying solely on your ear to get you there, something like the Drum Dial is going to save you a lot of time and trouble.
It's not just about speed. It's wonderfully consistent. Completely removes guesswork from the equation. All of us tune in less than ideal environments, and this helps remove that question mark from what you are doing. So many advantages to using something like the Drum Dial.Mathieu Benoit wrote:I'm still willing to try it, but I'm fairly fast with tuning drums already and if I get any faster then it just cuts in to billable hours...
Mathieu Benoit wrote:dylanger wrote:I'm sure I'll have a better understanding when I read the drum tuning bible.
Oh yeah. Just like that time I read that book about giving birth. I could totally give birth now.
Seriously, practice is the only solution I offer to anyone. There is no gadget or book in the world that can take the place of experience. Read the drum tuning bible but most of all, practice.
Mathieu Benoit wrote:dylanger wrote:I'm sure I'll have a better understanding when I read the drum tuning bible.
Oh yeah. Just like that time I read that book about giving birth. I could totally give birth now.
Seriously, practice is the only solution I offer to anyone. There is no gadget or book in the world that can take the place of experience. Read the drum tuning bible but most of all, practice.
macrae11 wrote:Mathieu Benoit wrote:dylanger wrote:I'm sure I'll have a better understanding when I read the drum tuning bible.
Oh yeah. Just like that time I read that book about giving birth. I could totally give birth now.
Seriously, practice is the only solution I offer to anyone. There is no gadget or book in the world that can take the place of experience. Read the drum tuning bible but most of all, practice.
Are you saying with some practice you could give birth?
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