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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:17 pm

Who's tracking those sessions Al?

I was talking to Dave Bartlett and he mentioned he was going to be there this weekend, and Ken was bringing a guy in.

Just curious.
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Postby macrae11 » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:15 pm

I think it's some idiot who doesn't really know what he's doing. ;-)
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Postby oddioguy » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:40 pm

I am not! :twisted:
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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:44 pm

macrae11 wrote:I think it's some idiot who doesn't really know what he's doing. ;-)
oddioguy wrote:I am not! :twisted:
So.... Does that mean you're not tracking the sessions... or that you're not an idiot who doesn't know..............????????
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Postby oddioguy » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:04 pm

Malcolm Boyce wrote:
macrae11 wrote:I think it's some idiot who doesn't really know what he's doing. ;-)
oddioguy wrote:I am not! :twisted:
So.... Does that mean you're not tracking the sessions... or that you're not an idiot who doesn't know..............????????

Yes.

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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:06 pm

For the record, Andrew did a wonderful job with this. The schedule was incredibly aggressive, and we were (after 2+weeks of it...) still virtually on schedule. The fact that Ken knew what he wanted helped along too, for the most part the session really sailed along. I've worked with Andrew before, but never as an assistant. I learned a metric shitload. Thanks Andrew!

Ken was very pleased with the outcome too. I can't wait until it comes back from mastering... A really fun project it was. Good vibes...
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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:58 pm

Mathieu wrote:I can't wait until it comes back from mastering... A really fun project it was. Good vibes...
Who is doing the Mastering?
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:09 pm

I forget the name. Andrew may remember, it's a friend of Ken's from TO.
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Postby macrae11 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:13 am

Yeah it's a guy name Jeff Elliot. He was the mastering engineer at Reaction Studios when Ken used to work there a lot.
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Postby weatherstation audio » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:38 pm

I want to hear this puppy fresh for the first time, when it's a shrink wrapped product.... in other words, I refused to listen to rough mixes.

can't wait to hear it... I'm a fan of Mr. Tobias, he's a great guy with major talents !
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:50 pm

It still hasn't gone off to mastering, he's still sitting on the mixes for a while, just letting them soak in to make sure they're just right. My own assumption is that the "shrink wrapped" CD won't be out until the new year. I think that was the plan though, The man is very meticulus, and does everything on purpose.
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Postby weatherstation audio » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:59 pm

yeah, I bumped into Ken while workin' the Ron Sexsmith show.... and he had the mixes on a mini USB storage device on a string around his neck !

so I joked with him...
"perhaps you should have it in a briefcase with hand cuffs to the wrist"
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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:55 pm

Did he mix it himself, or is it Andrew?... or someone else?
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:16 pm

Andrew mixed it... and the mixes were great. Ken seems to just but letting them sink in before moving on to mastering. That's the way I'd to it too...If I had patience..lol
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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:23 pm

Excellent, good for Andrew. I hope to work with Ken sometime as well. His name has come up for a few things at Jagoe's place, but nothing has materialized as yet.

I can't wait to hear it.
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:29 am

It's just really good pop music. Something you could stick in your iPod and enjoy while going for a walk. Aside from the quality of the recording, I first and foremost really just love a lot of the songs. I'm actually glad I won't hear them again for a while, because it will make it fresh to me wen I hear the final release like everyone else.
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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:00 pm

Mathieu wrote:... I first and foremost really just love a lot of the songs. ...
Well... The guy has been known to write the odd good tune...
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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:30 pm

Mathieu wrote:Andrew mixed it... and the mixes were great.
Mixed at Fluid, or at your home base Andrew?
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:43 pm

Mixed at Fluid. I learned the importance of good note keeping. We mixed it on the Amek. Which was nothing short of a miracle... The board, as most of you know, was never fully tested because of circumstances, Alain being away on work for one, and there were the kinks to iron out.
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Postby macrae11 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:28 am

Yeah it was mixed on the big old Amek. It was really fun to mix almost completely OTB. It's been a long time since I've done that. There are some things I would like to do differently if I had the chance again, but c'est la vie.

It was my first time doing full mixes in the room, so there was a learning curve for sure. Ken brought his Tannoy PBM 6.5's from home, which I also have a pair of in Fredericton, so that made the transition a little easier. Also the mix schedule was quite aggressive. Two mixes a day top to bottom. Given some more time I would have gone back and been a bit more picky about a few things, but overall I was happy with the mixes when they left the building.
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:29 am

The entire schedule was very agressive! Good on Ken and MacRae for beng able to stay on top of it, for like 16 days straight... I was around too, mostly sitting on the couch behind the producer's re-reading Mixerman. But those two were machine like. By the time mixing started, everybody was already getting exhausted, but even so, the mixes, sounded very good to me, a couple in particular were amazing. MacRae I gotta tell you, you really taught me alot. The mixing part of it was my favorite part. You made it sound "classic" for the most part. There's no other word that I can think that would best describe it. What also helped, was a producer with a very clear idea of what he wanted.
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Postby macrae11 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:14 pm

Thanks Matt, I'm glad you got something out of it. It certainly couldn't have happened if Ken didn't have the vision that he did. Usually we were of one mind, but the few times he did things differently than I would have liked, I was still happy with the end product, even if it maybe wasn't how I would have done it.

All part of being an engineer/producer team. Which brings me to another topic, which I'll start another thread for.
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:22 pm

Is it a thread on my awesomeness? Just curious because I was gonna start one of those, and I'd hate to create a redundant thread.... :-P
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Postby macrae11 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:26 pm

mathieu wrote:Is it a thread on my awesomeness? Just curious because I was gonna start one of those, and I'd hate to create a redundant thread....


mmmm.... not so much
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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:29 pm

macrae11 wrote:
mathieu wrote:Is it a thread on my awesomeness? Just curious because I was gonna start one of those, and I'd hate to create a redundant thread....


mmmm.... not so much
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