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Postby Jef » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:25 am

You know... when it's late and everyone wants to get their gear packed up and loaded out... but you turn around and someone is 'helping' you out by 'elbow wrapping' mic cables... and you look at the mic stands and half of them are packed away with the clips still on them.....grrrrrrrr.
Does this piss anyone else off... or am I just being too obsessive compulsive?
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:10 am

Elbow wrapping gives me a headache. I'm with you on this one...
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Postby Malcolm Boyce » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:34 am

I'm with you on both points there. The clips on the mic stand is one of my pet peeves... of which I have many. :oops:

Repeat after me... Clips stay with mics! There's a reason why the clip comes with the mic when you buy it, and not the stand. Excepted only under circumstances where you are moving a repeating setup, where every mic will go with the same stand, every time, and you are transporting the stands in a way in which the clips can't be damaged... which of course is nearly impossible...

Don't even get me started about cable abuse. :-x
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Postby Jef » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:48 am

But... put it into perspective...
...let's say maybe a speaker blows (they do sometimes) and you think to yourself
"I'll have to replace that... $500 bucks.. oh well, these things happen.."
...But doing something that may potentially damage a 20 dollar cable or a 9 dollar mic clip... and I lose it!
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Postby oddioguy » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:56 am

Jef wrote:But... put it into perspective...
...let's say maybe a speaker blows (they do sometimes) and you think to yourself
"I'll have to replace that... $500 bucks.. oh well, these things happen.."
...But doing something that may potentially damage a 20 dollar cable or a 9 dollar mic clip... and I lose it!


hehe...I hope I get the chance to do another gig with you in the future....

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Postby macrae11 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:50 am

In these situations I'll usually kindly explain to the "helpers" that they be of better assistance if they helped move the gear out to the truck, where I have a competent packer already stationed. If it's someone I know I'll take the opportunity to train them in proper cable wrapping/stage etiquette. That way the next gig I might actually have someone who's of some use.
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Postby Mathieu Benoit » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:14 pm

Roachie used to hold cable wrapping seminars at the Flaming Bird. It usually ended up in one of two results:

Either the student did not get it, and walked away thinking that cable wrapping is stupid anyways; or they would understand and do a good job at cable wrapping, and get an attitude about it, thinking "I'm so cool, I know hwo to wrap a cable. look at me!"

Both results made me giggle.

The rare instance you'd get a normal result, they usually came from males. Not that I'm implying anything... I know we have great female techs in the city, but they just weren't at The Bird.... :-P
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Postby LarryS » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:22 pm

It bugs me too. But then again you trained me jef...well kind of. :-D
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