collide wrote:Thanks very much, Math!
So, you think the Bm thingy part sounds out of place, or is there just not enough? it is quite a short spot, and only used once.
what i was doing there was trying to deviate a bit from the main riff before the muted chord part comes in again.
collide wrote:as for dynamics, i'm guessing you mean bringing more sound as opposed to a tempo change? maybe another instrument or something?
collide wrote:i get excited when people make suggestions, especially when it's something i may not have noticed, or thought of trying.
Mathieu Benoit wrote:
In the end it's all subjective. I'll give you suggestions but you need to use your ears and your gut to choose which is right for you.
macrae11 wrote:...A mouthful...
collide wrote:i'm not sure how to go about noodling a vocal melody on the guitbox, but it's certainly worth a try.
do you mean to say that maybe that would sound good along with the lyrics, or separate?
gamblor wrote:I listened to this the other day. I must say this is a great piece of music. I didn't realize you had these kind of songwriting chops outside of the hip hop realm. I can't wait to hear more!
With the acoustic guitar the first thing I heard was the tuning. Tuning is a very personal thing, and one which I'm quite sensitive too, especially when doubling parts. A single acoustic has a bit of leeway, but the more guitars you layer the more critical tuning is. I get the feeling that if there was only one guitar it wouldn't bother me so much, but it's getting a little chorus-y with the double.
One of the things that I find helps doubles sit better, and also helps with the tuning issues and also fills out the musical spectrum, is capoing to different positions in the same key.
having two doubles panned wide that do a very simplified pattern that can easily be copied perfectly. These form the bed, and then another "lead" acoustic can be panned in the middle which can be a little more complex and form your polyrhythms.
... overcompressing, or the wrong compression can destroy a good acoustic sound. I think that you are compression wrong, or with a very poor quality compressor... (more specific stuff said here, but i'm trying not to repost every single thing you said, cuz it's above)
Baffles and gobos can sometimes help kill a bad room too, but they can introduce their own issues by killing some frequencies but letting others slip through. Experimentation is the key.
collide wrote:macrae11 wrote:With the acoustic guitar the first thing I heard was the tuning. Tuning is a very personal thing, and one which I'm quite sensitive too, especially when doubling parts. A single acoustic has a bit of leeway, but the more guitars you layer the more critical tuning is. I get the feeling that if there was only one guitar it wouldn't bother me so much, but it's getting a little chorus-y with the double.collide wrote:I'm a big fan of the doubling, from stuff I listen to, and stuff I'm recording. I don't always prefer it, but I favor it more than not. Is your thought on this that it
seems too much for the whole song, or is it that there is no chorus in the song, making the whole song sound chorusy?
collide wrote:macrae11 wrote:One of the things that I find helps doubles sit better, and also helps with the tuning issues and also fills out the musical spectrum, is capoing to different positions in the same key.collide wrote:I like this one. I am anxious to try it out!
collide wrote:macrae11 wrote:having two doubles panned wide that do a very simplified pattern that can easily be copied perfectly. These form the bed, and then another "lead" acoustic can be panned in the middle which can be a little more complex and form your polyrhythms.collide wrote:I Think I know what you mean by this one. Hadn't even crossed my mind. I have been writing all these songs with one guitar, and not even thinking of
adding other parts until recently when I finally had decent gear to work with. Now I need to play with many stuffs (<--technical term)
collide wrote:macrae11 wrote:... overcompressing, or the wrong compression can destroy a good acoustic sound. I think that you are compression wrong, or with a very poor quality compressor... (more specific stuff said here, but i'm trying not to repost every single thing you said, cuz it's above)collide wrote:This one confuses and intrigues me the most, because Until recently, I have not used compression ever. I don't fully understand how it works, so I have been
reading and talking to people and trying some things, as well as playing with presets. In this one, I found the presets sounded better than what I did adjusting
manually, but again, I don't know compression. How can one tell if you are overdoing it? should you compress one thing at a time? combine first, then compress?
compress only one thing? several? Here is the one I've been wanting to ask about the most. When it comes to taste, I will go with what I like, but I really
don't know enough about this to tell. If there is a better way to go about it, I want to learn.
If you have several items in your tune, which should have compression? or should they be combined and add compression to the tune as a whole?
I don't have much for gear. My compression is digital with Reaper, the program I record and mix with most. I am also not experienced with effects, reverb, etc.
collide wrote:I don't fully understand how it works, so I have been
reading and talking to people and trying some things, as well as playing with presets. In this one, I found the presets sounded better than what I did adjusting
manually, but again, I don't know compression.
collide wrote:How can one tell if you are overdoing it?
collide wrote:should you compress one thing at a time? combine first, then compress?
compress only one thing? several?
collide wrote:Here is the one I've been wanting to ask about the most. When it comes to taste, I will go with what I like, but I really
don't know enough about this to tell. If there is a better way to go about it, I want to learn.
collide wrote:If you have several items in your tune, which should have compression? or should they be combined and add compression to the tune as a whole?
collide wrote:I don't have much for gear. My compression is digital with Reaper, the program I record and mix with most.
collide wrote:I am also not experienced with effects, reverb, etc.
They're basically just sound blockers to reduce or eliminate either the sound of a room, or another sound source in the room.collide wrote:macrae11 wrote:
Baffles and gobos can sometimes help kill a bad room too, but they can introduce their own issues by killing some frequencies but letting others slip through. Experimentation is the key.collide wrote:these words are new to me. : P
I will look them up.
macrae11 wrote:collide wrote:I am also not experienced with effects, reverb, etc.
This again, is a whole nother ball of wax. I literally spend weeks on this stuff with my students, and often it still doesn't sink in. It's one of those things you almost have to be together to teach too, because it can be very difficult to get musical points across the internet. One thing I would say to try, is find other peoples songs which you like the treatment of, and try to copy it.
I hear the flanging class was actually delayed.Mathieu Benoit wrote:How much for your reverb classes? I want to learn more. Actually, is your delay class included? I want both.
Too true.macrae11 wrote:One thing I would say to try, is find other peoples songs which you like the treatment of, and try to copy it.
macrae11 wrote:Reverb and Delay classes are my usual rate of $35/hr, but with an AGGRAVATION fee of whatever I feel like. So for you Matt I'll give you the good guy rate of $1000.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:Too true.macrae11 wrote:One thing I would say to try, is find other peoples songs which you like the treatment of, and try to copy it.
Mathieu Benoit wrote:Something Tim Davidson did on an album he recently recorded/produced sent me on an investigative mission for a few hours actually.
Christian LeBlanc wrote:Mathieu Benoit wrote:Something Tim Davidson did on an album he recently recorded/produced sent me on an investigative mission for a few hours actually.
Ok, I have to know. Is there a sample online somewhere of what got you so curious?
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