macrae11 wrote: I just got some mixes back from Nashville and you would be stunned at the amount of compression, and de-essing that was done to the tracks. Vocals sound absolutely smashing though.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:I've been using it less to get rid of "Essessss" and more to control "harshness" in the 2-6K range. Vocals, and direct stringed instruments so far. I'm sure I'll try it on more.
I just wish it would go lower than 1KHz...
Drumwaiter wrote:macrae11 wrote: I just got some mixes back from Nashville and you would be stunned at the amount of compression, and de-essing that was done to the tracks. Vocals sound absolutely smashing though.
If they're all done I can't wait to hear them. I'm super excited to listen to that album.
Drumwaiter wrote:
So I usually try to just notch it out first, if the unwanted sibilance isn't too severe. If that doesn't do the trick I'll just sidechain a compressor into a parametric EQ and adjust to taste. I never used sidechain until recently but I found it useful w
If I had a good quality de-esser though, I'd probably do exactly what you're doing with it. I mean, why not?
Agreed. That's what I use for all the aforementioned uses if I have a good one.macrae11 wrote:... a decent multiband compressor? They can usually be set up to effectively work as a de-esser.
macrae11 wrote:Tracks are 99% ready to go. I'll bring you up a premaster tomorrow.
macrae11 wrote:Doesn't Cubase have a decent multiband compressor? They can usually be set up to effectively work as a de-esser.
Alain Benoit wrote:Matt, there are two channels of excellent de-essing in the first rack on you're right.
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Malcolm Boyce wrote:Andrew. Have you "De-essed" like that with a compressor and EQd key in? I'm absolutely loving it instead of multiband or any "De-esser" I've ever tried.
The problem can be the person's voice/mouth and you have no choice but to attack it with processing. I have had people that I couldn't believe they actually sound that way just speaking/singing in front of me. Sometimes as a result of voice training unfortunately.Mathieu Benoit wrote:Malcolm Boyce wrote:Andrew. Have you "De-essed" like that with a compressor and EQd key in? I'm absolutely loving it instead of multiband or any "De-esser" I've ever tried.
I'm not Andrew, but I'm finding in the studio more and more, than "de-essing" is a PITA that is best handled at the source. Maybe there is such a thing as a "magic bullet" de-esser (or equivalent), but I haven't found it yet.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:The problem can be the person's voice/mouth and you have no choice but to attack it with processing. I have had people that I couldn't believe they actually sound that way just speaking/singing in front of me. Sometimes as a result of voice training unfortunately.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:So, instead of a band pass or multi band compressor to de-esssssss, I'm talking about something that I first heard Clearmountain talk about years ago which is a compressor with an EQd key in to trigger only on the bad stuff. It really is turning out to be something way more satisfying than something band pass. I highly recommend trying it if you haven't.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:I've been messing around with some recorded vocals, and am finding the same thing is true which is a full range comp is far more pleasing than the band pass.
Malcolm Boyce wrote:So, instead of a band pass or multi band compressor to de-esssssss, I'm talking about something that I first heard Clearmountain talk about years ago which is a compressor with an EQd key in to trigger only on the bad stuff. It really is turning out to be something way more satisfying than something band pass. I highly recommend trying it if you haven't.
macrae11 wrote: Don't try with a 421 obviously .
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